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A Candid Conversation on Childhood Sexual Abuse, Radical Self-Responsibility, & Kink with Jagger Waters

This is one of the most intimate and refreshing conversations I've ever had on childhood sexual abuse. As my guest and long-time best friend of 15 years, Jagger Waters, says, societally, "We tend to treat it like it's a disease rather than an experience." As a comedy writer, she brilliantly sheds light on this topic by intentionally using humour to alchemize one of the most traumatic experiences one can have. We muse on what it's like to not just heal from the experience to the point where it's nothing but a tiny blip in our life story, but to also use it as a catalyst to become an even more powerful, communicative, confident, sex-positive, and self-aware human.


In this very different episode than any I’ve done on the Depth Work Podcast, we discuss childhood sexual abuse.

This is an intimate conversation between one of my best friends of 15 years - we have a common lived experience of being molested as children and we get very honest about what it looks like and what it takes to come out the other side of it as healthy adults.

While we don’t go into graphic detail, we also intentionally don’t treat this topic with fragility. Please care for yourself if this is a topic close to your heart, listen to your body and honour your own experiences.

You can listen to the whole episode on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.

What you’ll learn about in this episode - A Candid Conversation on Childhood Sexual Abuse, Radical Self-Responsibility, & Kink:

  • Ways in which the impact of childhood sexual abuse is more about betrayal/attachment than the physical/sexual aspects

  • The kinds of horrible (and hilarious) responses we've gotten from therapists and others

  • How age, gender, and power are deeply interrelated

  • Whether adult sexual kinks have anything to do with trauma and making a commitment to healthy relationships and sex

  • Self-translation and how to disclose to partners, therapists, and friends

  • What kinds of responses from people are helpful (and not)

  • Re-defining and communicating your relationship to pleasure

  • How to deal with retraumatization

  • Avoiding victimhood and taking radical self-responsibility

  • When to stop going to therapy and follow your own process

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About Jagger Waters:

Jagger Waters is a Los Angeles based comedy writer, goofball and amateur roller skater.

Instagram: @glamorousreptile

Twitter: @glamoureptile


DEPTH Work - A Holistic Mental Health Podcast

This is a space for those who love to dive into the underbelly, to revel in the mystery, question assumptions about what is normal, play in both/and, and honour the wide range of human emotions.

As a complex trauma survivor, holistic counsellor and co-founder of a mental health institute, I learned that there is immense wisdom in our pain and what we call crazy is just what we are yet not willing to understand and explore. Let’s dive in!

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